Hands-On Windows 195 transcript
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Paul Thurrott [00:00:00]:
Coming up next on Hands on Windows is going to be the first of a two parter how to get the Microsoft out of Windows 11 podcasts you love from people you trust. This is twit. Hello everybody and welcome back to Hands on Windows. I'm Paul Throt and as we've been discussing probably for years, Windows 11 quality has not always been the greatest. Microsoft we know is working on the pain points as they call them, but it's not really addressing the real insertification problems that I've identified a couple of years ago really. I had written a book earlier this year about deinsurdifying Windows 11. We did a couple of episodes that related to that, but I've decided to kind of go beyond that a little bit after experimenting with alternatives to Windows 11 like Linux for example, where you don't sign in with an online account but you can still secure the system in an adequate way or whatever. So some of this is really the types of processes we would have talked about before, but really aggressively in some cases doing the correct configuration in Windows 11 for you, which might mean no Microsoft account, it might mean no Microsoft apps like the store OneDrive, Microsoft 365 apps and aggressively if you want to be super aggressive, Microsoft Edge, etc.
Paul Thurrott [00:01:26]:
So I've been living in this kind of configuration across multiple machines for weeks. At the time of this recording, this particular computer that I'm recording on is one of those computers. Obviously I've already set it up to some degree, so I'll talk about some of the things that you do before you get to the desktop real quickly. But these are things we've talked about. Of course, I and others have written about this on the web and so forth. So as far as initial setup goes, you get a new computer, you've reset an existing computer, whatever it is. Obviously you can use tools like Tiny 11 Builder if you really want to strip down the the image that Windows has on disk. But for all the installs I've been doing for this round, this is just the normal Windows 11 install when it's a computer where I can reset it myself with, you know, outside of the os I've used Rufus.
Paul Thurrott [00:02:16]:
But you don't actually need to do any of that stuff because you can bypass all the stuff you want to bypass easily enough. And one of the big ones is if you want to sign in with a local account, which I did do. So you can see that here, this is just a local account during setup, when you get to the screen where you connect to a Wireless network. You type shift +f10, bring up a command line window, and then you type in. I'll type it in here. Not that this makes any sense at all, but I'll try to type it in here. If I can UBI bypass nro, which I've now memorized because I do it so much. Hit enter.
Paul Thurrott [00:02:51]:
The computer will reboot and I locked it. So the computer will reboot and come back into setup. And then you go through the process and you go through a really stripped down version of setup. The only big thing there is you can create your account, you don't need a password, which is the way I did this initially. And then you go through that privacy screen where you choose those options there and that's about it. And you get to a desktop that's super bare bones. So once you do get to the desktop like we have here, you connect to your wireless network. This is connected to Ethernet, but also I could connect to wireless separately.
Paul Thurrott [00:03:25]:
But either way you connect to the network, your start menu will start to fill out. This is previously mostly empty. And then you can go through this kind of normal first tab time configurations that everybody does. Now this particular thing I just noticed, this is actually one of the things I did not do and should do, which is you adjust the date and time or if it's not correct, which this is not correct. And that's because for some reason this often is set to not set the time zone automatically. So just by doing that, now it's on the right time and that's great. Go into Windows Update. I don't need to do this here.
Paul Thurrott [00:04:00]:
This has already been done. But check for updates. If you want to get the latest updates, meaning you're going to get preview updates, do so as you start to get the updates, be sure to go into advanced options, optional updates, and then if you have any here, install any of the drivers that you see, you definitely want to do that stuff. While that's happening, definitely go into the Microsoft Store as well. Even if you don't think you're going to use the Microsoft Store right and just check for updates. And this will update all of the, or I should say most of the apps that are pre installed on the computer. So it's just something these two things will be happening in the background as you do other things. And eventually Windows Update is going to prompt you to reboot.
Paul Thurrott [00:04:43]:
And after you do reboot the computer, you're going to want to check for updates again here and also in the Microsoft Store until they're all done. Right. And that's just a kind of a standard practice. But the way that this system was set up was with a local account and not a Microsoft account, like an online account and more so or just as important I guess. I also never created a password. So the first thing that I do while those updates are occurring is go into settings and then accounts and then down to sign in options and I actually create a password and then a PIN and whatever Windows hello authentication capabilities are available. I will also do those personally. So you need to have a password to set up a pin.
Paul Thurrott [00:05:30]:
Once you do have a password, it will actually, I think it will prompt you to set up a PIN eventually, but I've already done that. So I have these. This particular computer is a review unit. It's kind of curious in that it actually does not have facial or fingerprint recognition built in this first time I've seen that in several years. But normally I do enable those on whatever computer using a couple of other things that I like to do. I turn off this option here, use the sign in information to automatically finish setting up after an update. This is that screen that pops up, the white screen. It looks like setup.
Paul Thurrott [00:06:00]:
It's like hey, it's you should turn on folder backup or whatever. And it's like I just, I don't ever want or need that. I just. This will disable that from happening, which is nice. And if this bothers you, you can also go into your info and add a, an image here for your. You know, so it's a little weeble looking thing. I'm not going to do that here. But if you know this is like one of those things you get automatically with Microsoft account but you can do that here.
Paul Thurrott [00:06:27]:
Now if you're not going, if you're not totally anti Microsoft account, if you understand that you may be using it for things like Microsoft 365 apps or OneDrive perhaps or any, the Microsoft Store itself or any store apps that you might install from that location. You can add that not as a sign in account but rather as an authentication method. And the way to do that, go into accounts, your accounts and you can add a Microsoft account or a worker school account. So this is not a sign in account. This is an account you're going to use to sign into other apps from within this local account. I've already done that. I've done this from my Microsoft account. I made sure that they will ask, all apps will ask.
Paul Thurrott [00:07:12]:
This will not just happen. It's not going to pass through automatically. And the reason I did that was because on this particular computer, I did set up OneDrive and I wanted that to be connected to my Microsoft account. And so it is. And it's already all, you know, configured and so forth. So that's something you can do. Now as this is occurring, of course, updates are also happening. But the next big thing, and this is super important, is to go into settings and privacy and security and then go into device encryption.
Paul Thurrott [00:07:40]:
Now, I've already enabled this, but when you sign in with a non online account, a local account drive encryption is not enabled. It's super important that you do that because otherwise if somebody gets a hold of a computer can remove the storage, they could connect to it and get to whatever data is on there. And the way you do this is going to vary. Unfortunately. If you have Windows 11 Home, to do it through this UI, you actually have to sign into a Microsoft account. However, if you have Windows 11 Pro, you can click this BitLocker Drive encryption option and you can just turn it on here, which is how I did that here. You do have to save the encryption key somewhere so you can print it, which is probably silly in most cases. You can save it to another location if you have a USB disk or network location, whatever that is.
Paul Thurrott [00:08:29]:
I saved it to a network share in my case, but you can do that and then you're off and you're running and it's all great. If you do have Windows 11 Home and you don't want to sign in with a Microsoft account, which I do understand, there are sites on the Internet where you can buy product keys for Windows 11 Pro for as little as $9 to $10. And right now this one is 1090, for example. So you can Google this. It's very easy. This works great. I've done this on multiple computers both recently and in the past. So that's absolutely an option.
Paul Thurrott [00:09:04]:
If you just like, look, I just don't want to use the Microsoft account. I also don't want to pay $150 for an upgrade. You can just get a key online. It's legal, it's safe, it works fine. There's nothing wrong with that, so that's fine. The next step then would be to start removing the things that you do not want. Right? Because this is a stock install of Windows 11. Right.
Paul Thurrott [00:09:24]:
We didn't do anything special. We didn't use Windows, we didn't run win 11 debloat, we didn't use tiny 11 builder to change the install. So there's just the normal stuff would be on Here by default. And you can do a lot of that through the Settings app or even through the Start menu in some cases. But the thing I like to do is open the old Control panel. You can find that in Start Search. And this is already. I've already done it here.
Paul Thurrott [00:09:47]:
And then of course it's showing some of the things I've installed since. But the types of things you'll see in here would be Microsoft 365, if you want to remove that. OneNote is often a separate. Even though it's part of Microsoft 365, you'll see. And actually here you will see because I did not remove it. OneDrive and depending on your PC maker, you might see a few other things in here as well. This is a nice way just to get rid of that. Basically the Microsoft stuff is the thing I'm looking for, the big Microsoft stuff.
Paul Thurrott [00:10:17]:
From there you can and should go into the Start menu, get rid of any of the junk that is on here from your PC maker from Microsoft. Like WhatsApp is actually a really good example. You could uninstall or unpin, it doesn't really matter. This app isn't even really installed. But if you do it from here, it's pretty quick. Obviously you can go into the all Apps list, which is now on the front page of Start, and go through this list. You could also just go into Settings app and then go to Apps, do installed apps and then just go through the list, you know, and as you kind of go through this, like, oh, no, I don't want that. I don't want that.
Paul Thurrott [00:10:55]:
You can just uninstall directly from the side. I routinely uninstall pre, you know, pre bundled apps that are, you know, part of Windows that I just don't need. Like the News app, which I consider superfluous or whatever is in there. It's, you know, obviously up to you. Alrighty, so updates are occurring. You might have rebooted by this point, you've encrypted the disk, you know, apps have updated, etc. In the next episode we're going to go further into app install and configuration, installing some cloud service type things and so forth. But there's a couple of quick things that I really like to do right up front.
Paul Thurrott [00:11:36]:
For example, if you are going to use OneDrive, OneDrive will want to turn on folder backup. We've talked about this. You might want to go in there and just make sure that's not happening. That's a good thing to do. By default it will show this on this day notification, where it just pops up a thing that says, hey, it's whatever date this is. What the photos. These are the photos you have from this day in the past. I hate that so much.
Paul Thurrott [00:11:59]:
I don't mind it on my phone, but I don't want it on my computer. So I just turn that thing off. There's the date and time thing. Like I said, that is in the time zone. But one of the big ones is just File Explorer. By default, this thing is set to go into a home view, which has a bunch of stuff in it, which I have already disabled. But I'll show you what I do here, which is depending on how you're configuring this, there are going to be three or four options here on the privacy on the front first page. When those are checked, there's still nothing there.
Paul Thurrott [00:12:27]:
But typically that would fill this out a little bit more. So I uncheck those things. This kind of speeds it up. You know, Microsoft is doing work to speed up File Explorer in Windows 11 this year, but it's just not there yet, so there's no reason not to do this. And then I also have it just booted or open, open up to this PC display, right? Which is like the old my computer, which is this view here. So I just have a single drive on this computer. So there's not really not much to look at. But the point of this is just to make the thing come up fast.
Paul Thurrott [00:12:59]:
You know, when I load this thing, it's pretty, you know, it's fairly immediate. Whereas this page, especially when you have the other stuff, takes some time to load. The other thing you can do if, you know, if you're not. Whether you're using OneDrive or not, is you can actually remove the gallery to do that. There's actually a. It's a registry change you have to make. I could probably find it pretty quickly, but I have a registry. It's like a Registry file that you can just run, which makes that change in the registry and then it will remove the.
Paul Thurrott [00:13:34]:
The gallery. I think you might have. I don't know if I have to restart Explorer reboot to see that, but yeah, it's already gone. So just get rid of that thing. I don't use it. I don't like it. I don't like when I click on it by mistake and all these images pop up. It's not the way I do things.
Paul Thurrott [00:13:48]:
So, you know, that's. This is subjective. It's up to you, obviously, but that's one of those things that I really like to change every time in File Explorer, I just. I cannot stand it. Okay, so in the next installment, which is the second part of this, we're going to look at installing apps, like I said, managing app installs as well, especially web browsers, which are kind of a unique case. Disabling the copilot key. Always good disabling, tracking, cloud storage and lots more configuration changes. So next week we'll continue this.
Paul Thurrott [00:14:21]:
And the goal at the end, and you know, again, to your preferences, is to remove as much of the stuff that is, you know, from Microsoft that you may or may not want. Well, you remove the things you don't want, right. And this is going to be different for different people. Some people are fine with all of it. Some people will definitely want to remove a lot of it. And I have to say, in the weeks that I've been doing this, removing a lot of the stuff has made me really appreciate how good a computer can be because there's not a lot of stuff going on because someone's not trying to sell you on things or change your browser settings or whatever it might be. So it's actually, it's kind of a desirable configuration from my perspective anyway. So I hope you found this useful.
Paul Thurrott [00:15:03]:
We will have a new episode of Hands on Windows every Thursday. You can find out more about that at TWiT TV. How thank you so much for watching. Thank you especially to our club Twit Memories.
